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Dr. Gross Chat Sept. 30, 2008

Updated 10/1/08

This is a transcript of a Live Chat in the Surface Hippy Chat Room with Dr. Gross on September 30, 2008

[Dr. Gross] 6:59 pm: Good evening everyone.
[] 7:00 pm: Dr. Gross is from SC and has done over 1500 hip resurfacings.
[Dr. Gross] 7:00 pm: Thank you, I appreciate you having me

[] 7:01 pm: Dr Gross - I'm a 51-yr old female who runs 2-3 times a week - just a couple miles each time. How much do you think running will impact on the useful life of a BHR?
[Dr. Gross] 7:02 pm: Its hard to say probably it will last at least 8 years if you use good running shoes but no one knows for sure

[linejudge42] 7:01 pm: Hi Dr. Gross, in reading some literature on the Uncemented Biomet Recap, it appears that the cap prosthesis is "thinner" than other vendor "hybrid" versions. Considering this, theoretically, I would think that if at some point the uncemented cap came lose, that a revision would not necessarily require a THR. I would think there would be enough bone on the femoral head where a revision to another resurfacing prosthesis could be used? What are your thoughts?
[Dr. Gross] 7:03 pm: Its unlikely a revision of a resurfacing would be possible without doing a total hip

[] 7:02 pm: how can the cementless withstand impacts as well as cemented versions?
[Dr. Gross] 7:04 pm: The same way a cememtless cup can withstand impacts currently. It is likely that uncemented fixation can within stand impacts than cemented, this is the case with other implants.

[] 7:03 pm: You say perhaps 8 years if I continue running - what's your guess for useful life if I don't run.
[Dr. Gross] 7:04 pm: Pure speculation since we only have 8 to 10 year results at this point.

[] 7:05 pm: without impacts like jogging or such, is long term longevity to be hoped for?
[Dr. Gross] 7:08 pm: At this point 95% remain successful at 8 years. It is not known how impact exercises will affect this durability. Cement is likely to last longer without repetitive impact. Repetitive impact will not wear out the bearing surface.

[barryc] 7:06 pm: Dr. Gross - From a surgeons perspective what are the key factors that help determine if a cemented or cementless implant is most appropriate and are there any contraindications for the cementless alternative?

[Dr. Gross] 7:09 pm: My preference is to use only uncemented, so far I have not found any cases where an uncemented component would not be preferable to cement.

[] 7:06 pm: A lady could not be here, but asked me your thoughts on this about metal ions. She is trying to find out what the normal numbers would be. My chromium plasma levels taken at 11 months are 499.98 nmol/l, which I believe converts to 26ug/l . I am definitely way above average. So my question: Does anyone know what the safe levels of chromium and cobalt ions are? In nmol/l or ug/l
[Dr. Gross] 7:11 pm: No one knows what safe levels are. These are normal elements in our body. They are elevated after placing metal implants. There is no value to measuring and following levels at this point.

[ccurcura@scshealthcare.com] 7:07 pm: what are your thoughts on daily exercise (elliptical, treadmill) I am 2 years post bi-lateral BHR and 41 years old
[Dr. Gross] 7:12 pm: At 2 years virtually all exercise is good except possibly extreme repetitive impact sports such as marathon running. No one knows for sure.

[monona] 7:12 pm: How does the Biomet implant compare with the Birmingham prosthesis in patients with dysplasia?
[Dr. Gross] 7:15 pm: Mild dysplasia can be done equally with any company's component if there are severe acetablular defects the specialized dysplasia cup made by Birmingham and Corin are helpful. I would make a custom component with Biomet to handle the more severe deficiencies.

[] 7:12 pm: a famous retired tennis player was on the courts 6 weeks after minimal invasive large ball total hip..as I understand it recovery of full function is a bit rougher and longer with resurfacing? you perform both yes?
[Dr. Gross] 7:17 pm: The recovery is identical. The return to tennis this early is risky with either type of procedure. I would recommend waiting 6 months to return to vigorous activity. Yes, I perform both.

[Marcia] 7:12 pm: Hi, Dr. Gross! As one of your uncemented patients from January of this year, I was really pleased to see the results of your study on uncemented thus far.
[Marcia] 7:18 pm: Thanks - this has been an awesome device so far! Just minor muscular aches with over exertion.
[Dr. Gross] 7:17 pm: Marcia, glad you are doing well.

[DBall] 7:12 pm: I know you are really concentrating on your uncemented device right now but do you have any plans to develop something similar to the BMHR that would use the Biomet Cup?
[Dr. Gross] 7:19 pm: Biomet has just released a tri-spiked cup for supplemental fixation for moderate deficiencies. I have used some of these, I use custom components for severe defects, eventually I hope that these will be available off the shelf.

[barryc] 7:12 pm: Are you aware of any metal ion studies on the ion levels produced by the leading implant manufacturers and if so which implant, in your view, has the advantage here. As a follow up, does Biomet have or are they working toward a lower ion producing implant? If a more advanced devise is on the horizon and if so, is there a time frame you can share?
[Dr. Gross] 7:21 pm: I have seen no comparison studies on ion levels, Wright has an implant that uses a forged head and cast cup combination which they claim produces less wear and ions. In the future diamond bearing may be possible but research is in the very early stages.

[ccurcura@scshealthcare.com] 7:15 pm: what options do you see on the horizon when (and if) a BHR wears out. Is a THR the only option in this case?
[Dr. Gross] 7:21 pm: THR replacing only the femoral side is the best option.

[] 7:21 pm: How about ceramic for hip resurfacing?
[Dr. Gross] 7:23 pm: I believe there is one device being used in Germany currently but I have seen no results. It is very difficult to apply a bone ingrowth surface to ceramic. Also ceramic is brittle and may fracture with running activities. I would rather have cobalt and chrome ions and an implant that does not fracture.

[DBall] 7:22 pm: The reason I asked you about your plans for a future BMHR like device is because I am concerned about revision(s). Is there anything you see in the future that will a better option for revision from resurfacing than a THR?
[Dr. Gross] 7:26 pm: Not really. There is a very short track record for the Birmingham mid head resection device. Also there are short mini stemmed total hip implants. But the area of ingrowth is virtually the same as for a standard total hip.

[] 7:24 pm: What amount and type of activity is helpful in the initial week after surgery? I know stretching is important, but would walking around the house with an aide (walker, cane) in the initial week (as long as you can stand the pain) be a good thing to do?
[Dr. Gross] 7:27 pm: Walking is a great exercise for the hip, you should gradually be able to walk longer distances outside, I would be very careful with stretching, hip range of motion will return to normal with or without stretching.

[] 7:25 pm: will you perform resurfacing under general anesthesia?
[Dr. Gross] 7:28 pm: I will and I think it is equally as safe as a spinal anesthetic. My preference is spinal because we can achieve better post operative pain control in most cases.

[Jon] 7:29 pm: If I have "Coxa valga" (so say a few people who have seen my x-rays)--is there any way to "correct" this with resurfacing, or at least improve the angle so that the main hip stabilizers are working more efficiently?
[Dr. Gross] 7:32 pm: No, it can not be changed with resurfacing but it does not need to be changed. If you have an arthritic dysplastic hip resurfacing will relieve the pain and allow you to regain normal strength. Having a valgus neck may decrease your risk of femoral neck fracture with this procedure. You can correct the valgus with a total hip but you are taking more bone that could be preserved. Not a good trade off.

[monona] 7:31 pm: I was a competitive ballroom dancer prior to developing arthritis. My range of movement is severely limited and of course there's a lot of pain. How soon after resurfacing can one return to competitive dancing which places so much torque on the hip with movements such as spinning?
[Dr. Gross] 7:34 pm: You may return to competitive dancing gradually at 6 months. At that point bone ingrowth should be 90% into your components. The femoral neck has recovered from the surgery and will not fracture and your hip ligaments have healed to approximately 80% of their normal strength. At one year all of these are up to 100%. If you try to return too early, you have a higher risk of complications.

[] 7:32 pm: how often do you plan on a resurfacing and have to change to a total hip instead?
[Dr. Gross] 7:35 pm: I have only done this twice in 1500 cases, both cases had osteonecrosis. I under estimated the extent of dead bone in the femoral head.

[] 7:35 pm: What are your thoughts on the sitting angle for people with resurfacings. People with THR's are instructed to be sure their butts are higher than their knees for quite a long time. Is that true of resurfacings? How long before it's OK to bend at the waist?
[Dr. Gross] 7:39 pm: For total hip it depends on the bearing size. If the jumbo (resurfacing sized) bearing is used, much fewer restrictions are required because the hip is intrinsically stable. With both operations we do cut the hip capsule and this takes 6 to 12 months to heal. This is a secondary stabilizer of the hip. Extreme range of motion before full healing can lead to dislocation. You can sit normally right after surgery with a large bearing, restrictions for more extreme motion can then safely be gradually be lifted over the next 6 months. Small bearing total hips always require some restrictions.

[] 7:38 pm: are bone cysts the same as necrosis?
[Dr. Gross] 7:40 pm: Bone cysts are holes in the bone caused by arthritis, necrosis is a completely different disease process.

[ccurcura@scshealthcare.com] 7:38 pm: Is a revision to a BHR a more difficult surgery than the initial resurfacing. I had both hips done at the same time. Would you do 2 revisions simultaneously?
[Dr. Gross] 7:42 pm: Revision of a HSR to a THR is easier than performing a primary total hip replacement if it is the femoral side that is being revised. Both can be done simultaneously.

[gabulldog] 7:39 pm: Hey Dr. Gross. You performed my resurfacing surgery in May. I'm doing great. I'm just struggling with the thought of going back to running (which I would love to do). I'm 35 and I would like for this device to last a very long time. You told me during my first visit that I will eventually have to have my right hip resurfaced. Should I definitely consider light jogging or should I stick to the elliptical and walking so I don't wear the right one down any faster?
[Dr. Gross] 7:43 pm: Running will probably make your right hip wear out sooner but you know we can fix it. Elliptical and walking will not be as hard on your hip.

[monona] 7:40 pm: How soon after resurfacing can one start stretching to regain rom? Do you recommend any type of physical therapy?
[Dr. Gross] 7:45 pm: You may start stretching at 6 weeks but no extreme flexion exercises for at least 6 months. Physical therapy is not required after a posterior approach, the muscles recover quickly with walking and a simple home exercise program.

[Marcia] 7:40 pm: I believe there were only two or three failures of the uncemented thus far and were due to femoral neck fracture and no greater percentage than cemented - were those early in the recovery period? I think that this is still my biggest concern at this point (8 months out). Also, when I come back for my checkup in January, will you be able to see how much bone ingrowth I have from the stem and how well does that translate to ingrowth in the cap?
[Dr. Gross] 7:47 pm: I have had 3 out of 320 femoral neck fractures in the uncemented series, they all occurred before 6 months. This is the same as my cemented experience. There are case reports of later fractures but they are rare. I have had no femoral neck fractures after 6 months.
[Dr. Gross] 7:49 pm: You can't actually see ingrowth because the porous coating is under the metal. One infers that bone ingrowth has occurred if the implant remains stable on x-ray for 2 years.

[] 7:49 pm: So on the 4th day after surgery, when people tell me to "sit down, get off your feet, your doing too much!", I can tell them "YOU'RE WRONG - THIS IS GOOD!!"?
[Dr. Gross] 7:54 pm: You should be up out of bed, walking around in your house, sitting in a chair most of the day. Walking outside for one to two blocks a day is a good idea. You can gradually progress your walking from there. You should also ice and elevate.

[gabulldog] 7:53 pm: An earlier question referred to some of your research on the uncemented device. Have you posted this on your website? If not, where can we find it?
[Dr. Gross] 7:55 pm: Yes, it is on my website (www.grossortho.com) under "current topics".

[linejudge42] 7:53 pm: Dr. Gross, at the start of the chat, you mentioned an HR may only last 8 years for a runner? Is you answer just based on current data? It was my understanding that once healed, there were no physical limitations. An 8 year expectancy for runners would seem to put some real limitations on physical activity. Or do you really feel it could last 20 - 30 years, but you just don't have the data to back it up.
[Dr. Gross] 7:57 pm: You are correct, there is no data that tells us whether running will make your implant fail sooner, there is no data to tell us about survivorship of HSR after 8 years, only an educated guess.

[] 7:58 pm: When someone has the unfortunate experience of a femoral neck fracture, is it usually a sudden thing that the patient knows immediately due to the pain?
[Dr. Gross] 7:59 pm: Yes it is usually sudden and very painful but we have had a few cases where a stress fracture develops gradually over a week or two.

[] 7:59 pm: Dr. Gross. Thank You very much for taking time to answer everyone's questions. We all learned a lot.
[Dr. Gross] 8:00 pm: Thank you all.

 

 

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